Hi Amigos!
Welcome back to another episode of the podcast!
Kiari Lady Boss is a licensed tour guide and entrepreneur in New York City whose insanely fun adventures across the Big Apple and beyond are full of light, colors and style. Kiara is a go-getter, full of drive and continuously pushing the boundaries both professionally and personally. Her entrepreneurship has allowed her company, New York City 4 All, to blossom over the past years. As the owner and operator of New York City 4 All, she has cultivated her travel business since 2014, customizing excursions throughout the five boroughs. Her tours are fueled by her own passion to explore- taking her clients off the beaten path and allowing them to discover the culture, landmarks, establishments, and people that truly make NYC the greatest city on Earth. Kiara is able to create catchy contents with her original and unique ideas and colorful view of the world. Specialized in NYC, storytelling, travel, style and positivity.
Loved my conversation with Kiara! So much insight and energy! It’s incredible how everything shifts when you love what you do and show up with that energy every single day! So proud to call Kiara a friend :) let’s dive in!
TAKE AWAYS:
We only have one life so live to the max
You always end up where you’re supposed to be
Carpe diem, life is one, enjoy
A dream can also mean becoming the person you were meant to be
Cities can become your best friend, your teacher, your guides, keep your eyes open
If a door doesn’t open for you, it’s okay, maybe its not meant to be
Consistency is key, but also connection is key
Always keep in contact with the people you meet, you never know where they may lead you
There’s nothing more grateful than showing appreciation to people that actually use your service
Be intentional with what you do, mean what you say or what you do
Pay attention to the people that don’t clap on your wins
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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:
[00:00:00] Drea: Hello, Kiara
[00:00:01] Kiara: welcome C what's up.
Tell us a little bit about who you are, what you do and how you are creating the things that you're creating. Cuz once we started talking, I know people are gonna go to your Instagram and just binge your content.
[00:00:15] Drea: So go for it. Who are you? What do you do? What's your
[00:00:17] Kiara: story? my story is actually, 30 plus six years long. I live in New York city. I. I've been living in New York city for the past 10 years. And I didn't wanna move to the big apple, but that's a another story. It's a long story. I'm I'm a business owner.
I own a travel company, which is called New York city for all. And my target audience are all the people that could be, a traveler or a local that wants to experience the big apple and the New York city throughout the five S in the best unique and fun way. So I provide experiences and customized walking tours, bus tours, bike tours.
we do cruises. We move around. The Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Staten island, and everything is basically very targeted to the client, so to their needs. And I have people maybe living here that, don't know what's going on in the city. And since I love. To share things about New York.
[00:01:26] Kiara: And I love to share what's up and coming and the previews and hidden gems. I usually try to understand what they like the most in order to provide the best experience and adventure. But I also have a lot of clients that come visit New York city for 5, 6, 10 times. And they still would like to use my service just because they They wanna feel like a local, so they wanna do things that they might not find on internet on or on the tour guides.
and also most of the times they don't wanna do the average tour. They wanna do something different and more. So that's the part of, the travel part of my life, which is owning and managing the travel company. I'm also, the main tour guide of the travel company. I'm a licensed tour guide in year city.
[00:02:14] Kiara: I also have other tour guides working for me at freelance, and I also provide services in the. Cities of the United States. So from Chicago to Miami LA San Diego,passes to the attractions or transfer from the, to the airport. And I also try to, tailor the experience if they ask me to,
[00:02:35] Kiara: so I'm a storyteller and a content creator. My brand, the Carrie lady boss was born in 2019. I understood there was a need to put a face behind my company. I opened the company in 2014 and I've always been my own marketing. So I got to a point where I, through the help and the advice of some friends, I understood that I really wanted to separate those two things and those two type of content.
[00:03:08] Kiara: So the content related to the travel company and the business and the content related to myself and the brand. So my mission is basically to bring joy, fun, colors, and style into everyone's life on a daily basis and encourage everyone to live to the max because I believe we only have one life.
[00:03:27] Drea: We do only have one life. We
[00:03:29] Kiara: gotta make the most of. Even though one of my favorite quotes, is the one that goes, we actually have two lives. And the second one starts when you realize you only have one. I love that. It just gives me chills every time I think about it.
[00:03:46] Kiara: I'll always
[00:03:47] Drea: remember that forever now. That's so true. Cuz once you realize you just. Okay. I like you change. You have to now make the most of it. You become a different
[00:03:56] Kiara: person. Yeah. And when I had my pivotal moment, that's when I realized that we actually have only one life.
[00:04:04] Kiara: And that's when I realized that I definitely wanted to live to the max and not waste any minute of my life.
[00:04:10] Drea: I definitely wanna ask you about your pivotal moment for sure. in a few, but I wanted to go back quickly to what you were talking about. Because you're originally from Italy.
[00:04:18] Drea: Yeah. And so what was that like leaving your hometown for a city that you wanted to become your home and, build this new life. What was that like for you? Were you afraid? Did you feel like you weren't sure how it was gonna go? What were you thinking in that moment where you said I'm gonna leave and I'm gonna, I'm gonna start this.
[00:04:38] Kiara: I didn't wanna move to New York city. I didn't move straight to New York city from.
[00:04:42] Kiara: Italy. There were a few steps I took in between. I'm originally from a beautiful city, on the east coast of Italy on the Adriatic seats called an Kona, beautiful, clear blue water, amazing beaches, CILO, Pana, to name some du is one of my favorites.
[00:05:03] Kiara: After high school, I decided to take a gap here and I wanted to understand. What was my purpose and what I wanted to do in life, because I was very confused when I was little. I've always wanted to be a dancer.
[00:05:18] Kiara: And at the same time I wanted to be a,a flight attendant because I thought that would be the best way to travel the world for free. I've always wanted to travel the world. I've always wanted to explore and experience and have many adventures to incorporate in my. Stories and memories, but that was not the case.
[00:05:38] Kiara: So I finished high school and I started working at a McDonald's in my hometown to make some money. And then I actually came to Spain. I was volunteering with, elderly and I was basically busy every morning, to help the community and older elderly around my hometown, trying to understand what I wanted to do in life. it didn't really. That quickly. So the next year I decided to move to per UJA to start university.
[00:06:08] Kiara: And after two years, I applied for the, a Erasmus, which is a program that is financed by the EU, not a hundred percent, but they give you some funds for you to study abroad. So I had. Two desires. I wanted to live in Amsterdam, but so that was my number one city I wanted to move to, but I was not accepted.
[00:06:34] Kiara: So I moved to leads in the UK and that was what, that was one of the best year of my life, because I was not just living by my own. And. Experiencing all the life issues you have when you don't have your parents and when you're not living home anymore with your parents. But I was also studying, meeting new people, understanding and learning new languages and cultures.
[00:06:59] Kiara: And I was also working again, McDonald's in the UK and I was also teaching Italian at the university of Leeds. So I'm 22. I'm moving from Peja to Le for a year. I go back. I meet my ex partner, I graduate and then he got a job offer in New York city. So when he was like, he was accepting the job in New York city, I didn't wanna move because the first time I visited. It was in 2003 with my dad and I had a really bad experience. So I remember the moment I left New York and I said, I will never live here
[00:07:36] Kiara: Fast forward, nine years later, I actually moved to the city. I didn't wanna live, but I was drawn by love, I was not forced because it was my own decision, but the only way I could move to New York city was for something bigger than me, which was love at that time. He accept the job.
[00:07:58] Kiara: I don't wanna move right away. So I moved to Amsterdam because it was still my dream. And I wanted to feel fulfill that dream. So I moved to Amsterdam for about seven. And then after about a year of long distance relationship, I decided to move because I was the one that didn't really have a stable job.
[00:08:16] Kiara: And he was the one with the job
[00:08:18] Kiara: I've always wanted to live abroad. I've always wanted to experience the world, not just traveling, but also living in different countries, surrounded by very interesting and new and different people. So I was not scared at all to move to New York.
I was very curious, To understand if that, if it could be a city for me, but it grew on me really fast after four or five months, I was totally in love. And I'm like, wow, this is a place I'm supposed to be. And I didn't know.
[00:08:52] Drea: I thought you always went from Italy to New York, straight to New York, but this makes sense, cuz I feel.
[00:08:59] Drea: Things always happen this way. Like you think, you're like, no, this is not the place for me. And then somehow you end up right where you're supposed to be. Even if it's a place that you don't think, or you've written off, but, I love that you ended up there and it was the place that you were supposed to be.
[00:09:15] Drea: And now you live there and on your own terms, because even if you're not with that person or things, weren't the way that they were when you first got there now. Working for you in the way that you want them to?
[00:09:29] Kiara: Absolutely.
[00:09:30] Drea: You said that there was a pivotal moment in your life.
[00:09:33] Drea: What was that pivotal
[00:09:34] Kiara: moment? , I was really in love. It was a beautiful relationship. We were more than partners. We were friends, we were having so much fun and we were sharing many hobbies, including music. I used to own a company. we were managing DJs around the states and that was.
[00:09:57] Kiara: That was a lot of fun. And I didn't even know I was able to, own companies, especially cuz like I'm moving from a place where I dunno what I wanna do in my life. And I end up being my own boss, opening my, travel company and brand and everything. So that moment came in 2015 when he broke up with me and I was devastated.
[00:10:19] Kiara: I. Not seeing that coming. And also a few months later I lost my grandma, which was like a mother to me. So I completely lost myself and I really didn't know what to do. Like how to that was, for me, it was a grieving, I had to. Heal in a way, thinking about the situation as if I was grieving for two people, cuz to me it was, that was life changing.
[00:10:51] Kiara: And I was in, in a very deep pain of course, emotional pain. what helped me was. Started traveling solo. That's the moment when I decided that going back to the quote that I mentioned before, I was really scared at first to, take the step of. Taking my backpack and traveling solo as a woman, especially cuz you read so many stories and yes, there are safer countries in the world, but we're still women.
[00:11:25] Kiara: So we have to protect ourself more than men in, especially in certain situations in certain countries. But. When I started traveling by myself taking 32 planes in 2015, that was the starting point of my healing path that took me. I think I'm still healing in a certain way, but it's more like evolving to a better person, whereas before it was just so much pain and, Crying and, feeling lost and didn't know what was coming next.
[00:12:03] Kiara: And it took me three. I will never forget. It took me three years to get over the breakup, but I remember after three years I was talking to myself and I reminded myself that was over. Like I w I went through all the things I had to go through. and I was starting the new life that I just mentioned before.
[00:12:24] Kiara: And from that moment, I'm like card dim life is one enjoy every single little moment of your day, don't care about what people think. Just be yourself as I used to be all the time, but I got to. It was like a different level of acceptance. It was a lot of acceptance, a lot of patient involved and yeah,
[00:12:49] Drea: I, I totally feel that because I think for a lot of women and even for really anyone, cuz it doesn't have to be a relationship.
[00:12:58] Drea: It also be a friendship. That really you have to mourn because it's no longer the one that you had, and it's crazy how so many people can have an effect on you. and create this. Persona is person like a new version of you because of the relationship you had? I had the same experience with an ex of mine and I think it, it happens to everyone in one way or another.
[00:13:23] Drea: Like I said, either a friendship or a relationship or a family member. It could be anything that really shifts your perspective on what life's really about. And, either what what you deserve or what you want or how you want your life to look like. It could be anything, but thank you for sharing that, because I think that's also important to highlight that your career and your journey doesn't necessarily only have to be about, like you following your dream.
[00:13:53] Drea: It could also be about who you meet and what you go through personally that develops the person that you is also working towards that.
[00:14:01] Kiara: Absolutely. Also the people I met along the way, played a big role into my healing because I love to connect with people and I love, the human touch and meet people physically rather than digitally, even though, it's not always, a possibility, but I was.
[00:14:22] Kiara: Listening to so many different stories of, people tr traveling solo or couples or group of friends that I was meeting. I was like, wow, people go through so much. And there's so many issues that you don't even think about when you're in pain and when you're suffering for your own issues and problems.
[00:14:43] Kiara: But then when you share with other people, you get different perspectives and different. support from strangers.
[00:14:50] Drea: It's very interesting. And just today I was listening to this, YouTube video with Mel Robbins and this other woman named Lisa bill.
[00:14:58] Drea: Who's Tom Bill's wife. He's a like motivational speaker slash podcaster slash so many things. But, I had never really heard her speak, Lisa BIU and they both were talking about this idea of mourning chapters of your life. Not necessarily just a person or grieving, like a certain loss, but actual chapters of your life and how you have to be.
[00:15:23] Drea: Aware that's okay to do. Like it's okay to realize that like a chapter of your life has ended and you're not going towards something else. And it just means that you're no longer that person and you're going towards the new version that you're becoming. And it's a beautiful thing, right? once you realize that you are no longer the person that you've, you were, and you're leaving those things behind to now become the person that you've been working to become.
[00:15:50] Drea: And she said that, and I thought it was really, it aligns with what you were saying about, about yeah. About your journey. What you were saying too about the people and, traveling solo, I think that's so important. It is very scary as a woman, for sure.
[00:16:04] Drea: But traveling solo is the most eye opening experience like being alone and, traveling alone and experiencing things alone and having to be your own best friend on a journey, is.
[00:16:18] Drea: For me personally, it was, it's been like the best thing ever, to know how to love myself, to know how to be there for myself, to know how to nurture myself. have fun, cry be by myself, everything it's it was like, it has been the most eye opening.
[00:16:33] Kiara: I don't think I know that's the best gift I've ever given to myself traveling solo.
[00:16:39] Kiara: So yeah, I 200% agree. A thousand percent agree.
[00:16:44] Drea: Now that you've been in New York for some time and you have this company established and your brand with the content creation, what kind of sets you on fire every single day? What's the thing that you wake up and that you are meant to do
[00:16:58] Kiara: the new adventures and the possibility.
[00:17:01] Kiara: To share them with the world and the people that are interested in the way I share stories and New York city at the same time, there's always something new, something exciting, something fun, something to learn from, it's New York city, as we all know. And there's nothing like the big apple, I love this city to death because it's, for me, it's not just the city.
[00:17:26] Kiara: For me, New York city is a best friend. New York city is a school I learn from the city every single day. I've learned to be patient I've learned to evolve. I've learned to, accept new cultures. I've learned to, leave the life that I want to. By myself on my own at my own terms and be my own boss, We all face issues and we all face problems. It's not always easy to be an immigrant, a woman in a different country owning your own business and trying to make it.
[00:18:04] Drea: That kind of goes hand in hand with my next question. How has it been owning your culture in a new place?
[00:18:11] Drea: How's how has it been to be Keda who is Italian and be proud of where you come from? How has that been for you, with your company and with all the things that you do every single day?
I'm very proud to be Italian. Even though I feel like I'm a citizen of the world. So I feel, I always, I joke about it, but I say that if you check my blood, it's not a hundred percent Italian.
[00:18:37] Kiara: It's 50% Italian. And then a little bit of Dutch, some American and other places either I visit or I love, because it's like, a bucket full of colors of the people that I meet on my journey. That said , it was really hard to grow, at the beginning. When I started my company, I was looking. For similar services online, I'm targeting my company mainly to Italians, but I also do English speaking countries, but I usually have Americans or Canadians or Australians. my niche is the Italian, audience.
[00:19:18] Kiara: And when I started. Nobody was doing customized walking tours. Nobody was like incorporating, this fun and exciting part to the tour. There were so many tours that I found and many companies that I actually reached out to. And there was only one that trusted me and we still worked together. All the rest was like either not responsive or didn't care.
[00:19:44] Kiara: Didn't trust me. So it's. Maybe we're not meant to be, or be on the same path in this lifetime. So the company started growing fast because when I first approached the audience on Facebook and not a lot of people were doing live videos, live video was ju, were just coming. During those years.
[00:20:10] Kiara: And I was constantly doing live videos almost every day, showing showcasing New York city, like different angles, different adventures, different events. And that's how people found me really fast. and that's when I understood the power of social media, but I'm a self thought. So I really, I didn't really know what I was doing until much later where I've learned so much about all the platform.
[00:20:36] Kiara: And I'm still learning. they're always, the algorithm is always changing and there's always a new app coming up. So it's not easy to keep up with everything, social media related. so I grew because of Facebook initially and, word of mouth and I was also getting a lot of good reviews on Google maps or trip advisor on Facebook.
[00:20:59] Kiara: And then I was getting discovered by. Italian travel companies, Italian tour operators, or again, word of mouth, friends of friends of clients. And that's how I grew pretty fast in the first few years.
[00:21:14] Drea: Going to what you were saying about word of mouth and being, having the success of your business in that way, I think is so important because not a lot of people talk about that because social media is what people are focusing on, like the numbers and having all this hype around your profile.
[00:21:32] Drea: However, It's so old school now to think of and I don't say it to you only because my best friend is a photographer. And in her episode it was the first episode I did with a guest. I talked to her about her company. She's a photographer in Miami and. She was like, I get all my clients, word of mouth.
[00:21:51] Drea: She doesn't do ads. She doesn't do anything. She was like, all my clients are word of mouth after one client, another client comes after another client another. And so I think it's so important to remember that if you have, especially if you have a service based company or, creation, like whatever you're doing, like your customer's happiness is really important.
[00:22:12] Drea: And not only that, but before you had mentioned how. Some of them, some of your customers come back, even though they've already seen like the top things to do in the city. And it's because of who you are, like how you, how you position yourself in that
[00:22:28] Kiara: space. Yeah. That's what they say. They, they follow my journey, they follow my adventures, they follow the things that I share on social media, which wa, which are most of the times off the beaten path.
[00:22:41] Kiara: And they actually. Be taken to that journey with me and they wanna do the things that I do. They want to be part of a daily adventure, like a, as a new Yorker. So that's also why they come back. But also a lot of my clients, I feel they relate to me on a deeper level. Seeing what I share on social. When I say social, I mainly talk about, YouTube, Instagram.
[00:23:05] Kiara: Even though I use all the platforms, including TikTok, Facebook and the blog, but, where I'm most vulnerable or I'm most showing my face are Instagram and YouTube.
[00:23:17] Drea: What would be some advice that you would give someone that is an immigrant or,is coming from Italy maybe, what would be the advice you would give to someone that wants to do what you're doing or wants to start something similar to what you're doing?
[00:23:29] Kiara: Consistency is key, but also connection is key. don't underestimate the power of the people you meet, what I've been learning and doing in the past few years, starting before the pandemic is literally saving all the context of the people that I meet. it could be a phone number, an email, a website, and then follow up with them and be in touch because you never know the world behind that person.
[00:23:58] Kiara: And you never know where that person could take you. So it might not be, you might meet someone today Probably you don't have many things in common, but who knows what you're gonna do two years from now, three years from now and that person, same thing. And then along the way, your paths are gonna meet again, and maybe you're gonna do something together.
[00:24:20] Kiara: so definitely context. are playing and have been playing a big role for my growth and my strategy. If I, if you wanna call it strategy, I love to send thank you notes, but on paper to show appreciation and to show that I'm actually investing my time. the first few years, you know what I did for Christmas, I sent Christmas cards to all my clients handwritten.
[00:24:47] Kiara: it took me three days, a lot of money for, stamps, cuz they were going to Italy. but I really took the time because I wanted to show appreciation and I wanted to show they're not just numbers. There are people that trusted me that decided to use my service and. For me, there's nothing more grateful than showing appreciation to people that actually use your service.
[00:25:15] Kiara: Yeah. No. And that
[00:25:15] Drea: goes a long way. I'm sure that's also a true Testament to your success with, the people word of people's word of mouth of people being like getta service was so great. And that was so fun. That she's the best. Yeah. Because you actually took the time to show them that you're very grateful for their.
[00:25:31] Kiara: True. Also, I would say, be very intentional on what you do and mean what you saying or what you do. if you meet someone and for you, it was not a pleasure to meet that person. Don't follow up saying, oh my God, it was a pleasure to meet you. That to me is like the worst thing you could do because you're actually.
[00:25:54] Kiara: Your energy is not showing what in reality your heart is saying. So you're sending mixed signals to the universe and that's not being intentional. it's gonna show in the future, maybe not. Right away, but in the future it will.
[00:26:11] Drea: That recently has happened to me. Similarly with people that have been reaching out to me to be on the podcast, like not them directly, but some of their agents or people that are representing them are reaching out to me asking, Hey, this is someone that has done.
and so we think they're a great match for your podcast. And then I read what they wanna talk about. And I'm like, you obviously don't know what the show's about because this person is not aligned. That's exactly what I mean. Yeah. This person is not aligned with my show. they wanna come on the show just to pitch what they do and to get more clients and to get more business.
[00:26:47] Drea: And my show is all about talking about the journey. My show is all about talking about how you're doing, what you're doing, so it's been like a learning curve where I've had to be very. Honest and authentic and be very nice of course. And just say, I don't think that we're a great fit.
it doesn't seem that this person is aligned with what we would talk about unless I'm wrong. And, and so wants to talk about this, and this definitely connect me, but if not, I say, I don't think that we're a match and we move on.
and related to this,I wanna share something that a friend of mine told me and has been stuck to my head ever since.
[00:27:22] Kiara: Pay attention to the people that don't clap on your wins. Those are the people that I forgot going to suck your energy and are not going to show appreciation. And you need to be very careful to be around those people. And it's not so easy to identify. Fake people or people that actually wanna take advantage of you, even though you're a good, like a good reader, like you have a good eye or a good perception.
[00:27:51] Kiara: I really, I feel people, I feel the energy. I feel I'm very empathic. So most of the, I don't wanna say always, but most of the times I'm right on my feelings, sometimes people hide really well behind their personality. yeah, this is something that I've been trying to work on really hard and stay away from those people.
[00:28:14] Drea: What do you think is your biggest loss or failure so far in your life? And what do you think has been your biggest win or biggest success in your life?
[00:28:27] Kiara: I'm gonna start from the win
[00:28:29] Kiara: it's finding myself and my balance that's related to all the work like inner work and self work I've been doing in the. 5 6, 7 years that led me to a new person. And that includes following the moon phases. setting intentions when it's the new moon manifesting, when it's the full moon, actually taking time for myself during those moments, saving.
[00:28:57] Kiara: As many hours as needed at night, lighting some candles using some music writing down on my diary. reading the pattern, the app. And. going back, reading things that I wrote two, three years ago, it's very powerful because you see the power of manifestation actually leads you to reach your dreams.
[00:29:21] Kiara: And it's not just something I say, it's something proven that many of the most successful people do. so that's number one, looking for myself and finding myself. And the balance, connecting with myself and being aligned to the universe. My biggest loss. That's a tough one. I need your help.
[00:29:44] Drea: I always reframe this. This question, because the reason why I stopped asking the question is because I felt like people, kept saying but failure, is such like an ugly word, and all this stuff. But the thing is, the reason I asked this question is because Sarah Blakely, the owner of spanks, she talks about how, when she was younger, her dad every night at the dinner table would ask her, what did you fail at?
[00:30:08] Drea: And she would come home and be like, oh, I got an F and I, all these failures and she never understood like why he was highlighting her failure until she realized that he retrained her mind to think of failure as something that happens. It's normal and it's okay. And you learn from it. And it's not the end of the world.
[00:30:25] Drea: If you get an F if you get enough, then. You ask yourself, how do I not get an F what's a step I can take to, get a D instead of an F. And so she realized that when she was younger, he made her not afraid of failing. And she was like able, when she got older to be willing to mess up, willing to do it, messy, willing to just go for it.
[00:30:46] Drea: And then if she failed, she knew that was part of it and she could keep going.
[00:30:49] Kiara: What do you
[00:30:50] Drea: think has been, a loss that created an opportunity for you?
[00:30:53] Kiara: Yeah, pandemic. Oh yeah. pandemic. That's another time where I felt lost. Cuz like from overnight I literally had no job, like many people, but since I, I own my company, I went from making money to zero for the year. I'm someone that it's really hard to stop. so I was always looking for ways to be active even during, the, the lockdown.
[00:31:23] Kiara: And I was looking, always looking for ways to entertain my audience and make them have fun and not think about what we were going through, because it was very painful for a lot of people. So that's when I'm like, okay, I'm going to invest my. to grow, to take as many courses as possible. it doesn't matter if I'm not making money.
[00:31:46] Kiara: Now, the money that I saved, I want them to flourish in like within myself in the most,in the best way. So I took, I hired a vocal coach. For like almost a month and a half, I took a, a storytelling course with Seth golden, the God of marketing. And then I hired a health coach for six months to understand more about my nutrition and, workout and everything.
[00:32:15] Kiara: And then I actually took the course with Lizette for social media monetization, and I decided that. I wanted to go back at reading, cuz I used to love reading. I just lost the pleasure of reading before the pandemic because I was so busy and concentrated to, keep going, making money, like not having days off.
[00:32:40] Kiara: So I was burning literally and 2020 have taught me so many things and that was something. Opportunities came up from, Yeah,
[00:32:52] Drea: I agree. I think a lot of people, are on that same page where a lot of things happened that were out of their control and they just had to figure it out and make an opportunity out of something that was really scary and unknown and uncertain.
[00:33:06] Drea: Thank you so much for sharing. For being on the podcast. I'm so excited for people to hear your story and start following you because you guys should start following Kia let us know where, we can find you or we can follow you.
[00:33:20] Drea: If someone wants to book you
[00:33:22] Kiara: for sure. Kiri lady boss and New York city for all in all other platforms, I'm mostly active on Instagram. So I have two accounts on Instagram, TikTok, blog, YouTube, and Facebook.
[00:33:38] Drea: Amazing. Yeah, I'll have everything linked below, but it's great to, for everyone to know where to find you.
[00:33:43] Drea: So thank you so much, Kiara,
[00:33:45] Kiara: thank you for this opportunity. I really appreciate it. And I wanna say GRA you to your audience as well. .